Question
Will someone please explain to me how this kind of behavior is justified?
[See disclaimer and following note below before you STAKE me alive in the comments section.]
Several points:
- 52.5% of Californian voters approved Prop 8. The entire Mormon population of the state of California isn't 52% (it isn't even 2%), and YET--we are the ones bearing the brunt of the protests.
- I can't seem to recall anywhere in the bill of RIGHTS that says that all citizens have the RIGHT to life, liberty and the pursuit of marriage. Given that our nation has the highest divorce rate in the world, I find it difficult to support yet another group obtaining the right to marriage. Indeed, I think that all people should THINK (with their brain) before they decided to get married.
- Marriage is a sacred as well as a secular union, irregardless of whether it's a judge (pull out a dollar bill and read the back if you have any doubt about the nature of God and this country) or a priest/pastor/bishop etc. performing the union. Those protesters have only proven that they don't hold anything sacred so what is the point of their marrying?
Now if we can return to the purpose of this entry which is for you all to explain to me how the aforementioned behavior is justified, I would really appreciate it.
[Note: All smarmy comments will be summarily deleted. It's my blog, it's my right of free speech; if you don't like it--don't read it.]
Labels: life
posted by M @ 4:23 PM
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10 Comments:
Hey everyone, look! The Husband is making his 2nd appearance on Burnstopia!
Its kind of funny that this post went up today, because I read in the student newspaper a brief blurb about this very subject. Well, about the voting, not about Mormons getting accosted for being Mormon.
I couldn't find the link to the article from the student newspaper, so here is a link to a California paper:
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/voters-supported-black-2218703-latino-proposition
In summary--7 out of 10 black voters and over half of latin voters supported the measure. So, please, quit blaming the Mormons. You can start blaming Obama for getting people of ethnicity out to the polls.
To throw fuel on the fire--that means Obama is not perfect as previously believed by most voters...
Dude dude DUDE... this is a very personal subject, not just because I'm LDS, but because my sister and my sweet nieces and nephew live in California and have been the subject of just this kind of very bad behavior.
Did you know that someone published the list of all individuals who donated to the Prop 8 campaign? They listed their names, cities, and whether or not they were LDS. This is not the kind of behavior that anyone should be championing. And I can't see that any Mormons would be behaving this way if Prop 8 had failed.
I could go on... and not be very literate about any of it. So I'm going to stop.
Suffice it to say, I agree - and Amen to The Husband, as well.
Wow- and amen to the husband and whimsy. Sad. I'm commentless.
It is disturbing. Props on posting this!
Amen, and may i add, i miss you terribly, and the boy is fantastically handsome, and the way you phrase things makes me so jealous of how eloquent you are. I LOVE YOU MUCHO. ps- i think that this whole attack the mormons thing is just going to get worse, i hope not, but you know. and i also have a lot of gay friends! so im right there with you babe!
There is no justification for this behavior! These people are proving how SMALL they actually are.
Here's some articles that helped me understand the situation a bit more:
Allegations of bigotry or persecution made against the Church were and are simply wrong. The Church’s opposition to same-sex marriage neither constitutes nor condones any kind of hostility toward gays and lesbians. Even more, the Church does not object to rights for same-sex couples regarding hospitalization and medical care, fair housing and employment rights, or probate rights, so long as these do not infringe on the integrity of the traditional family or the constitutional rights of churches.
Some, however, have mistakenly asserted that churches should not ever be involved in politics when moral issues are involved. In fact, churches and religious organizations are well within their constitutional rights to speak out and be engaged in the many moral and ethical problems facing society. While the Church does not endorse candidates or platforms, it does reserve the right to speak out on important issues.
http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/news-releases-stories/church-responds-to-same-sex-marriage-votes
“I personally decry the bigotry recently exhibited towards the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — coming from the opponents of Proposition 8, who ironically, have called those of us supporting traditional marriage intolerant.
“I call upon the supporters of same-sex marriage to live by their own words — and to refrain from discrimination against religion and to exercise tolerance for those who differ from them. I call upon them to accept the will of the people of California in the passage of Proposition 8.”
http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/news-releases-stories/catholic-bishop-decries-religious-bigotry-against-mormons
MLB in SAV adds: Dang. circlecube referenced the lds.org website before I could. I'm still sitting on the fence on the issue. While I want my sister-in-law to be happy, I can't fully endorse same-sex marriage when my religious beliefs think homosexuallity is a sin. I read the LDS Church's statements on the ban, the statements on the protests, and the Catholic Bishop's statement on the protests. I understand why the LDS church must speak out against "marriage", but why can't these couples have the same SECULAR rights we all have with our spouses? How do we address this?
BTW, why wife (who really does have a gay sister who wants to marry her partner and they live in CA) sees this as a black/white issue. Her view is: if homo. is a sin, then society can not endorse marriages. SO I asked her - Mormons don't drink or smoke, should we ban alcohol and cigarettes?
P.S. Look at the wisdom of "the husband". Maybe we should start Church of the husband.
i am not sure why protesting anything should be considered bad behavior in a country that honors free speech, such as you have noted here in your blog.
Amanda:
My objection is not to the protest, to the use of their freedom of speech--as you put it, but rather to the fact that we are singled out when we could not possibly have passed prop 8 alone. And not only are we singled out for protest, but if you will read the signs in the picture attending the article, we are maliciously singled out and they can't even get their facts about us straight.
Mike:
The difference between marriage and the Word of Wisdom is this: the Word of Wisdom was written for people already belonging to the Church. It is for the advancement and perfection of that membership. The marriage issue is part of the Proclamation on the Family that went out to the world. We hold all people to that basic standard.
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